Question about education path for breaking into the field. - Competitive Intelligence2024-03-28T18:19:34Zhttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/forum/topics/question-about-education-path?commentId=2036441%3AComment%3A33895&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThank you Martha!tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-19:2036441:Comment:342612010-06-19T19:00:36.183ZNathan Marlarhttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/NateMarlar
Thank you Martha!
Thank you Martha! Consider joining SCIP: (www.s…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-18:2036441:Comment:342422010-06-18T22:46:12.783ZMartha R. Matteo, PhDhttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/MarthaRMatteoPhD
Consider joining SCIP: (<a href="http://www.scip.org" target="_blank">www.scip.org</a>). In any case, check out the "training and events/clalendar" pages on the web site. There are several active SCIP chapters where you will be able to network in person with CI professionals from a variety of backgrounds. Certainly the Washington DC chapter is very active. If you can get yourself to the NY chapter meeting next tTursday (June 22) you will hear the speaker Cliff Kalb. He will describe the role of…
Consider joining SCIP: (<a href="http://www.scip.org" target="_blank">www.scip.org</a>). In any case, check out the "training and events/clalendar" pages on the web site. There are several active SCIP chapters where you will be able to network in person with CI professionals from a variety of backgrounds. Certainly the Washington DC chapter is very active. If you can get yourself to the NY chapter meeting next tTursday (June 22) you will hear the speaker Cliff Kalb. He will describe the role of CI for strategic decision support, when Merck and Johnson & Johnson agreed to undertake a joint venture. This is probably one of the best case study presentations I have ever heard to enlighten you on the role of CI "in business." Also, Cliff is an entertaining and engaging speaker. You will surely get a picture of one of your options that will not come from web-based networking or any course you might take!!<br />
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I hope to meet you there!!<br />
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Martha Matteo<br />
mmatteo@att.net You are welcome Upendra. Let…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-15:2036441:Comment:341482010-06-15T17:18:35.379Zmonica nixonhttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/monicanixon32
You are welcome Upendra. Let me know if I can help you further.
You are welcome Upendra. Let me know if I can help you further. Monica,
You have provided ma…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-15:2036441:Comment:341192010-06-15T00:15:29.324ZUpendra Topiwalahttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/UpendraTopiwala
Monica,<br />
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You have provided many answers to my questions.<br />
Thanks<br />
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Upendra
Monica,<br />
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You have provided many answers to my questions.<br />
Thanks<br />
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Upendra Welcome Nate, welcome. I woul…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-14:2036441:Comment:341152010-06-14T21:19:27.730ZAndrew Beurschgenshttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/AndrewBeurschgens
Welcome Nate, welcome. I would recommend obtaining a commercial understanding even if that is via reading the Economist as well as downloading the insights that we gathered through a recent project we undertook in the UK from <a href="http://www.ukcif.co.uk" target="_blank">www.ukcif.co.uk</a> Also look at GIA's white papers. There are also some 10 key questions to prep for an interview with a number of opportunities appearing at <a href="http://www.scip.org" target="_blank">www.scip.org</a>
Welcome Nate, welcome. I would recommend obtaining a commercial understanding even if that is via reading the Economist as well as downloading the insights that we gathered through a recent project we undertook in the UK from <a href="http://www.ukcif.co.uk" target="_blank">www.ukcif.co.uk</a> Also look at GIA's white papers. There are also some 10 key questions to prep for an interview with a number of opportunities appearing at <a href="http://www.scip.org" target="_blank">www.scip.org</a> You are welcome Nate! Go get…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-14:2036441:Comment:341102010-06-14T19:57:38.356Zmonica nixonhttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/monicanixon32
You are welcome Nate! Go get 'em!
You are welcome Nate! Go get 'em! Thank you Monica, I greatly a…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-14:2036441:Comment:341052010-06-14T19:48:31.641ZNathan Marlarhttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/NateMarlar
Thank you Monica, I greatly appreciate your insight!
Thank you Monica, I greatly appreciate your insight! Hi Nate,
As an experienced C…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-14:2036441:Comment:341032010-06-14T19:27:22.412Zmonica nixonhttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/monicanixon32
Hi Nate,<br />
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As an experienced CI Hiring Manager in the tech sector in a $27B company, I have to echo the sentiments of Carrie and Upendra. I dont care if a candidate has an MBA, if they went to a top tier school, or if they have a certificate in Intelligence. I'm not looking for someone fresh out of school to start with to place on my CI team. I need someone with in-depth knowledge of the business and experience influencing business decisions by providing critical analysis. This isn't just my…
Hi Nate,<br />
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As an experienced CI Hiring Manager in the tech sector in a $27B company, I have to echo the sentiments of Carrie and Upendra. I dont care if a candidate has an MBA, if they went to a top tier school, or if they have a certificate in Intelligence. I'm not looking for someone fresh out of school to start with to place on my CI team. I need someone with in-depth knowledge of the business and experience influencing business decisions by providing critical analysis. This isn't just my preference, its a full stop requirement from Executive Management.<br />
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That said, I've had freshly minted MBA employees and folks with Intel certs approach me about joining the CI team many times. I always respond by asking them to show me some analysis they produced. In every case, I failed to be impressed (particularly with the MBAs). On the other hand, I've had folks in the business without fancy degrees or a background in intelligence produce some amazing work. My personal opinion in thus accordingly: Intelligence analysts are born not made. With that in mind, I look for certain attributes on a personal level that I've noticed are common to successful analysts and I place far more emphasis on them than any degree or cert.<br />
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My advice to you would be to find a job in an industry you have interest, perhaps in a basic analyst role in Future Product Marketing or as an Associate Product Manager to get your feet wet. You'll be asked to provide some competitive and market insight, and if you shine, you will get the interest of the CI Manager. This is how I broke into CI many years ago, and how I know many others ended up in CI roles. I don't know anyone who got a CI job because they had an MBA, went to Harvard or simply because they had a certification from the Academy of CI.<br />
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Regards,<br />
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Monica Carrie,
Your point is valid…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-13:2036441:Comment:340592010-06-13T14:01:52.621ZUpendra Topiwalahttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/UpendraTopiwala
Carrie,<br />
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Your point is valid as well. I have found that you should have some familiarity of the sector you are interested and you don't need an advanced degree. It's a matter of getting the experience that counts the most, and getting that is difficult.
Carrie,<br />
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Your point is valid as well. I have found that you should have some familiarity of the sector you are interested and you don't need an advanced degree. It's a matter of getting the experience that counts the most, and getting that is difficult. Carrie,
Thanks for the respo…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-11:2036441:Comment:340242010-06-11T21:17:08.180ZNathan Marlarhttp://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/NateMarlar
Carrie,<br />
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Thanks for the response. I certainly see your point and that's what made me wonder if an Intelligence degree wasn't listed in job postings often...if it was because it's a relatively new and uncommon degree, or if it was because businesses aren't even really looking for that specificity, opting instead for someone with a business degree. What you said makes sense and I definitely appreciate your input!
Carrie,<br />
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Thanks for the response. I certainly see your point and that's what made me wonder if an Intelligence degree wasn't listed in job postings often...if it was because it's a relatively new and uncommon degree, or if it was because businesses aren't even really looking for that specificity, opting instead for someone with a business degree. What you said makes sense and I definitely appreciate your input!