CI WIKI DISCUSSION - Competitive Intelligence2024-03-29T14:27:20Zhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/forum/topics/ci-wiki-discussion?groupUrl=intelligencecollaborative&feed=yes&xn_auth=noDoesn't exist.tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2014-06-24:2036441:Comment:960722014-06-24T14:38:44.836ZSélim Lahrechhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/SelimLahrech
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<p>Doesn't exist.</p> Our next intelligence wiki di…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-07-16:2036441:Comment:349972010-07-16T21:54:34.004ZArik Johnsonhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/ArikJohnson
Our next intelligence wiki discussion is scheduled for Friday 23 July at 10:30 eastern - register at:<br />
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<a href="https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/696693027" target="_blank">https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/696693027</a><br />
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Jordan Frank and I have been setting up a Traction TeamPage server for testing and so far it's pretty slick. A few of you will be receiving a login for it - if you don't get one but want one, please just let me know. If you can't make the call that's alright too -…
Our next intelligence wiki discussion is scheduled for Friday 23 July at 10:30 eastern - register at:<br />
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<a href="https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/696693027" target="_blank">https://www2.gotomeeting.com/register/696693027</a><br />
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Jordan Frank and I have been setting up a Traction TeamPage server for testing and so far it's pretty slick. A few of you will be receiving a login for it - if you don't get one but want one, please just let me know. If you can't make the call that's alright too - we're just trying out a few new ideas to see how they might look. Thanks for the update Mark an…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-08:2036441:Comment:338092010-06-08T06:06:21.924ZArik Johnsonhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/ArikJohnson
Thanks for the update Mark and for hosting the call Friday - apologies I had to bail out early. Looks like much was accomplished!
Thanks for the update Mark and for hosting the call Friday - apologies I had to bail out early. Looks like much was accomplished! PATH FORWARD.
Several folks…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-06-04:2036441:Comment:337042010-06-04T22:32:01.129ZMark Johnsonhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/MarkJohnson
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Several folks have been engaged with the weekly Intel Collab conference call in talking about Wiki plans. You can access the WAVE with description of current actions using this URL: <a href="http://bit.ly/bGMelR" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/bGMelR</a><br />
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The key item before our next call is for folks who are potential contributors to:<br />
1. Access the wiki at <a href="http://www.cijedi.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page" target="_blank">http://www.cijedi.com/wiki/</a> . Create an account…
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Several folks have been engaged with the weekly Intel Collab conference call in talking about Wiki plans. You can access the WAVE with description of current actions using this URL: <a href="http://bit.ly/bGMelR" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/bGMelR</a><br />
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The key item before our next call is for folks who are potential contributors to:<br />
1. Access the wiki at <a href="http://www.cijedi.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page" target="_blank">http://www.cijedi.com/wiki/</a> . Create an account and try to post an article.<br />
2. Note any difficulties. This particular WIKI is being used as a testbed. Some articles may eventually be incorporated in a "prime time" version, but that's not our immediate objective. We're trying to kick the wheels and test drive the concept.<br />
3. Participate in discussion (access via COMMUNITY PORTAL link on left menu).<br />
4. Discuss your expectations for the content and interaction potential of the wiki.<br />
5. Especially contribute your ideas on how to engage potential contributors, potential readers, and those outside of our community.<br />
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This is not the full list of "TODO" items, but you can see the full list on the WAVE. If you don't have access to the WAVE, Arik will be glad to issue you an invite.<br />
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Mark There's been some recent disc…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-04-30:2036441:Comment:324892010-04-30T15:03:48.512ZJordan Frankhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/JordanFrank
There's been some recent discussion on taxonomy here. I'll throw a few cents on how a system may be organized.<br />
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- Terms: Competitor, Intelligence, Competitive Intelligence, Market, Market Research, Information, Ethics, Ethics in CI, KIT, KIQ<br />
- Models: Intelligence Cycle, KIT Model, 5 Forces, 4 Ps<br />
- People: Jan Herring, Arik Johnson<br />
- Organization Types and Organizations: Software Companies, Consulting Companies, Market Research Companies, Traction Software, Strategy, Comintelli AuroraWDC, Fuld…
There's been some recent discussion on taxonomy here. I'll throw a few cents on how a system may be organized.<br />
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- Terms: Competitor, Intelligence, Competitive Intelligence, Market, Market Research, Information, Ethics, Ethics in CI, KIT, KIQ<br />
- Models: Intelligence Cycle, KIT Model, 5 Forces, 4 Ps<br />
- People: Jan Herring, Arik Johnson<br />
- Organization Types and Organizations: Software Companies, Consulting Companies, Market Research Companies, Traction Software, Strategy, Comintelli AuroraWDC, Fuld & Company<br />
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You need several these pieces to handle wiki scenarios such as a case where you talk about Jan Herring's introduction of KITs and implement a KIT Model to as a basis for your Competitive Intelligence effort.<br />
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I think an overall "wiki" should have a few components in different spaces:<br />
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- CI Wiki - CI definitions, concepts, organizations.<br />
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- Bookmark references to Journal and Media. Supports referencing from Wiki pages and Forum discussion.<br />
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- Forum for discussing CI in general with references to bookmarks and wiki pages.<br />
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- CI "courseware" - Following MIT Open Courseware, something that provides course material could leverage the wiki pages and help expand and reinforce the community.<br />
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In consideration of all these spaces and related content, a tagging strategy is useful as a means to help organize content by topic in a way that is easily understood and can be replicated in each space. About seed topics on the Wiki…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-04-30:2036441:Comment:324882010-04-30T14:39:10.016ZAri Korpinenhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/AriKorpinen
About seed topics on the Wiki - I would like to discuss the possibility of contributing (alone or together with some other member) an article on the topic "Defining the competition / competitors". An introduction to the topic of how to determine what companies or other entitities actually are competitors to a Target company. The answer to this question affects the implementation of the entire Intelligence Cycle in any CI-exercise when sizing up a Target against its competitors. I've noted that…
About seed topics on the Wiki - I would like to discuss the possibility of contributing (alone or together with some other member) an article on the topic "Defining the competition / competitors". An introduction to the topic of how to determine what companies or other entitities actually are competitors to a Target company. The answer to this question affects the implementation of the entire Intelligence Cycle in any CI-exercise when sizing up a Target against its competitors. I've noted that in many company databases that produce lists of "competitors" to a Target company, the companies offered as "competitors" may on closer scrutiny not be competitors at all. The fact that a company shares a high-level category label with another company does not as such imply a competitive relationship. Challenges arise also when the Target provides some elusive service as its offering (e.g. "business consultancy services"). The challenge there is to find those companies that offer the same specialization of "business consultancy services" to the same extent as the Target does, so that these two companies can be called competitors. A third and a fourth example of challenges in identifying the competitors is when the competition comes from substitute products or services, or from potential new market entrants (who are not on the market yet, but who could be quickly because of few/no entry barriers).<br />
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It would be interesting to discuss this topic here, and as I said, maybe to write collaboratively an article on this topic with a fellow IntelCollab member. I look forward to hear your thoughts on this,<br />
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Best regards,<br />
Ari Personally I would support an…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-04-12:2036441:Comment:316412010-04-12T07:21:35.897ZGavin Wilsonhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/GavinWilson
Personally I would support any MediaWiki-based initiative, but I have to say I would be keen to keep this project away from Wikipedia. In my long experience of Wikipedia, the most destructive force is not the schoolkids who inject profanities into established articles, but the administrators who throw their weight around deleting well-intentioned articles. These admins behave as if they are all-powerful.<br />
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Do exactly what you have done: create a wiki running MediaWiki software, kept well away…
Personally I would support any MediaWiki-based initiative, but I have to say I would be keen to keep this project away from Wikipedia. In my long experience of Wikipedia, the most destructive force is not the schoolkids who inject profanities into established articles, but the administrators who throw their weight around deleting well-intentioned articles. These admins behave as if they are all-powerful.<br />
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Do exactly what you have done: create a wiki running MediaWiki software, kept well away from the reach of Wikipedia admins. I want to echo Kristan's comm…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-04-12:2036441:Comment:316352010-04-12T04:08:49.154ZMark Johnsonhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/MarkJohnson
I want to echo Kristan's comments that while Wiki's get a lot of criticisms, there have also been a lot of studies to indicate that Wikipedia in particular is at least as good as popular media in terms of accuracy, and may rival encyclopedias and even science journals in some areas. There is a great unbiased Wikipedia article: <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia" target="_blank">…
I want to echo Kristan's comments that while Wiki's get a lot of criticisms, there have also been a lot of studies to indicate that Wikipedia in particular is at least as good as popular media in terms of accuracy, and may rival encyclopedias and even science journals in some areas. There is a great unbiased Wikipedia article: <<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia" target="_blank"><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia%3E" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliability_of_Wikipedia></a><br />
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The key, I believe, is the group of volunteers who act to review the entries and correct those which are incomplete, self-serving, inaccurate, or "web-vandalism". The part of this which is difficult to assess is the degree to which a voluntary resource is "self-healing". It would never be perfect...but life and CI are never a game of perfect. the discipline is about reviewing imperfect information, and deciding which bits of information are important, and which are misleading or irrelevant.<br />
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Traditional publishing sources don't have any obvious way of improvement over time. The book is published and all the errors remain until the next edition of the book...if they are caught. In some disciplines, (it's been documented in Chess publications) errors in transcription get copied from one book to another book for generations.<br />
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The key benefits of a wiki are that consumers of the information can get what they want with little overhead whenever they want. Those with good insights can advance the discipline at will...though some of these will always be false trails. The whole open source software movement is losing its stigma of being lower quality than commercial software. In the long run, I believe wikis may be the front wave of a trend towards open knowledge structures. You are correct that many aca…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-04-12:2036441:Comment:316332010-04-12T03:19:45.601ZKristan J. Wheatonhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/KristanJWheaton
You are correct that many academics are concerned about the reliability of Wikipedia. I will also say that many of those fears are unfounded. Some, in fact, are simply based (in my opinion) on prejudice against anything "wiki". In this sense, a stand alone CI wiki will not solve that problem nor will it derive any of the benefits you mention concerning association with Wikipedia.<br />
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The truth is that Wikipedia is a tertiary source of first resort for most of us. Care is called for but care is…
You are correct that many academics are concerned about the reliability of Wikipedia. I will also say that many of those fears are unfounded. Some, in fact, are simply based (in my opinion) on prejudice against anything "wiki". In this sense, a stand alone CI wiki will not solve that problem nor will it derive any of the benefits you mention concerning association with Wikipedia.<br />
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The truth is that Wikipedia is a tertiary source of first resort for most of us. Care is called for but care is called for with any source.<br />
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What many people do not know is that Wikipedia has a fairly robust system for evaluating and assessing articles, particularly within WikiProjects. I would point you to the Military History WikiProject as an example. <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history</a> It has a well developed structure, provides templates and other resources to its contributors and even has a system for providing awards and graded assessments (to see these, one has to know to go to the discussion tab of a wiki page. In fact, many of the concerns about accuracy could be answered if readers would also check out the discussion tab on every wikipedia page they visit). Featured Article Status is another indicator of excellence: <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_criteria" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Featured_article_criteria</a><br />
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In addition, there are automatic systems for scoring a wikipedia page such as wikitrust (<a href="http://wikitrust.soe.ucsc.edu/home" target="_blank">http://wikitrust.soe.ucsc.edu/home</a>). These systems will never satisfy the hard line anti-wikipedians but I think they will satisfy the generally tech-savvy CI professional. Kris, thanks for the details.…tag:competitiveintelligence.ning.com,2010-04-12:2036441:Comment:316322010-04-12T02:48:40.542ZAugust Jacksonhttps://competitiveintelligence.ning.com/profile/AugustJackson
Kris, thanks for the details. The WikiProject is an interesting possibility. It is appealing because of Wikipedia's omnipresence. It has a huge audience. Its pages rank high in search engines. It eliminates operational overhead. The licenses and standards are in place.<br />
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One question I have about Wikipedia is that I have heard many disparage Wikipedia as a source. In some academic environments Wikipedia is verboten. Would we be compromising any authority for the project by having it associated…
Kris, thanks for the details. The WikiProject is an interesting possibility. It is appealing because of Wikipedia's omnipresence. It has a huge audience. Its pages rank high in search engines. It eliminates operational overhead. The licenses and standards are in place.<br />
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One question I have about Wikipedia is that I have heard many disparage Wikipedia as a source. In some academic environments Wikipedia is verboten. Would we be compromising any authority for the project by having it associated with Wikipedia? Would there be any methods for countering those perceptions?