Hello Kevan, we are feeling the effects of the downturn as much as our competitors and clients. Fortunately we have some long term contracts which are not affected. However, now is the time to broaden our skills and expand our portfolio of services. What business are you in? And where in B'ham do you live? How is Newton Rd and Great Barr? I haven't been home for many years now. Most of my family moved to the Peak District in the 70s and 80s. Cheers!